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Poster: snori Date: Mar 11, 2010 5:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8561963.stm I can see the sense in the 'artistic integrity' argument, but I wouldn't quote 'Sergeant Pepper' in it's defence. The sleeve notes on the remastered digital version say that the original was not released in the order the Beatles wanted and suggests the playing order if you want to listen to it the way they planned.

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Mar 11, 2010 9:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

it does make sense 100%. floyd were always an album band. picking integral pieces out of 1 whole thing, does not (make sense)

btw - congrats > 4:0
that rooney kid is a real headbanger

cheers

This post was modified by fireeagle on 2010-03-11 17:47:50

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Poster: craven714 Date: Mar 11, 2010 11:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

No offense, but The Pink Floyd BECAME an album band.
(Pretty much starting with Meddle)
Back in Syds days, Im sure they were pleased as punch to
SELL a SINGLE. So, dont get me wrong...I love Floyd.
But this makes little sense to me. Does this mean I will
have buy the compilation cd "Works" in its entirety?
(even though I've had it for over 20 years :) )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_(Pink_Floyd_album)
or these other compilation albums that have already gone
2, to 4, to 6 times platnium?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd_discography#Compilations

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Mar 11, 2010 12:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

ok, became - since ummagumma

didnt consider compilations though
never took them seriously and never bought any

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Poster: craven714 Date: Mar 11, 2010 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

agreed...

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Mar 12, 2010 1:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

Stairway To Heaven was never released as a single, not sure about now, but the only way to get the song back in the day was to buy Led Zep IV, as intended...or visit your nearest guitar store that didn't ban it :)


would also think any Floyd previously released as a single would be up for grabs by EMI, (looks like almost every album has been 'compromised" already);
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd_discography#Singles

remember reading GD broke up "That's It For The Other One" and "Terrapin" into separate sub titles for the sole purpose of collecting additional royalties (based per track)

seems if someone wants to protect something as a complete work then maybe they should take it the distance and bundle it as such...oh well, still good to see the artist having it both ways for a change (no sarcasm intended or implied)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 12, 2010 2:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

Hey MS--check messages at the other place if you want to do bizness...

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Mar 12, 2010 2:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

sometimes an old cliche nails it

"You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar."

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 13, 2010 11:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

It's in the mail; any questions I suppose we can take them up over at the PM place...do let me know; the folks at the 7-11 style "mail box store" have, at best, rudimentary English "skills" and figuring out where you are was quite an undertaking...they asked "WHY would anyone live THERE!?" to which I replied, "well, he's making ice, his own personal attempt to save Polar Bears single handedly" and they thought that was really something...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 11, 2010 10:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

I am just glad to see Syd front and center there in the photo...again to my way of thinking, whatever the "intent" was should apply whatever the format that happens to come along...right? If they had an approach as to how things should be packaged, and that applied to albums, or cassettes, then given they didn't see a bunch of 45s or "mini-one-song-cassettes", then I don't see how it should change just cause we got CDs and all the rest now...

So, for now, I say good for them...Syd anyhow.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 11, 2010 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

The pontifications of Ironicus and Sarcasticus above not withstanding - I can see an argument for DSoftheMoon being taken as a thematic whole (The Wall too? - I've honestly never listened to the whole thing) but can you really say that Piper would have been hugely different if Lucifer Sam and Matilda Mother had been switched round or if Seesaw was the first track on SofS? (Jugband absolutely has to be the last track - no question of that!)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 11, 2010 12:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

Oh no doubt I am with you all the way with the ONLY two albums that matter in my book vis-a-vis the band...I am just saying if they, the band, made an agreement, it shouldn't be obviated because albums have become digitized representations of said product...no more than if you had your little book thingy's on parchment paper and told the publisher in 750 AD that it was "one thing, not to be broken up" and then 1450 yrs later someone said "we digitized it, so all bets are off" I'd be right there with you screaming "foul!"

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 11, 2010 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

Ah, old friend, I could only dream of having such control at this or at any other time. Most of what I do is considered as 'work for hire' - I pretty much relinquish all rights as soon as I hit 'send'. I've had no really bad experiences myself of my work being hacked around subsequently (not yet anyway) but I've heard a few horror stories from others, believe me ...

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Poster: snori Date: Mar 11, 2010 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

I'm going to have to listen to that now you've whetted my appetite. I've loved Lucifer Sam since I first heard it (when God's dad was young, it seems to me now). And Bike.

SOYCD and Animals should be played as released. As for Dark Side - it's just a collection of pop songs to me, and only 'Comfortably Numb' appeals to me from The Wall. I'd love to have heard Jerry play that Stella Blue style.

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Poster: amosearle Date: Mar 12, 2010 5:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

Here's the NYT version of this story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/business/media/12pink.html?th&;emc=th

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 11, 2010 8:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

Well, don't expect Pete Townsend to jump into the fray to protect the artistic integrity of Tommy or Quadrophenia. What's that? A CSI spin off for the United Arab Emirates? Sure, we can redo that one with arabic lyrics....

Also, it truly is hard to listen to a track off of Back in Black in isolation as it ruins the whole's "artistic integrity". I've got big balls, on the other hand, might work as a stand alone...

And the thematic continuity and artistic statment of a Garth Brooks' album cannot be disputed (although Chris Gaines might object).

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2010-03-11 16:55:04

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 11, 2010 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

There was something to be said for a well-planned 20 minutes of vinyl - side one of Abraxas being a particularly fine example of the craft.

The whole notion of the 'thematic' creation pretty much went out of the window with the arrival of the CD, equipped as it was with shuffle capability, freeing the listener from the tedium of having to get up and lift the tonearm on the record deck to skip tracks. Of course the skip function on the CD player was an absolute necessity to avoid the extra 30 minutes or so of recording time that was filled up with leftovers that in earlier days wouldn't have seen the light of day until some bright spark came up with the idea of doing a special edition outtakes album.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 13, 2010 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: yesterday's 'Send lawyers' thread - the result

you miss your 8-track player don't you? Actually that was how i listened to Sgt. Peppers originally by 8-track in dad's car.